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PeterM36373
Well, as you say, "it is better to eliminate Affirmation Action" -- yes, that is our new reality, and so "College Admissions Could Become More Subjective" -- U.S. colleges have a game plan, like emphasizing the personal essay, so that less emphasis will be on standardized metrics like test scores and class rank, with "
more emphasis on personal qualities"
Oh no! We already know what Harvard thinks about the "personal qualities" of certain ethic/racial groups -- Harvard consistently rated Asian-American applicants lower than others on traits like “positive personality,” likability, courage, kindness and being “widely respected,” [
www.nytimes.com] --
and this part of the culture of Harvard, and not just Harvard, but far beyond Harvard --
it takes "courage" to think creatively, and that is what are looking for -- factors including potential for creative, unique, independent thinking -- these are not traits easy to develop for some racial/ethnic groups --
What Straight-A Students Get Wrong
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www.nytimes.com]
And this seems to be a cultural truth: A Students Work For C Students
So grades are not that important -- courage to think creatively is.
Th end of affirmative action will not result in increasing levels of admission to Harvard, et al, for some racial/ethnic groups, who suffer deep flaws as a result of the deep flaws of 中國文化 -- for example, passing the 高考 takes zero amount of creativity.
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From a posterity point of view, it is better to eliminate Affirmation Action off the law books so that it is not weaponized as a tool to file frivolous lawsuits that uses racism to fight racism. Affirmative Action when it was implemented had a clause that it was a temporary public policy fix with good intentions despite being a failure.The US will eventually reach a point in the future when no one is racially 100% of anything anymore...just look at the Hispanic category...Hispanic is not even a race thus making race an obsolete category and any new immigrants to this country are already disconnected from historical wrongs and bad public policies that has since been corrected.
As far as I know, creativity needs to be documented throughout one's life journey on a portfolio like for art school. My ABC cousin graduated from Harvard and she is just a house wife with kids. If her grandfather wasn't so rich and well-connected, I don't know what her brains or creativity would have brought to the table.
Whether or not Asian -Americans benefit...time will tell but it is just an example how Asians especially ethnic-Chinese are and still continues to be the most regulated minority in the world and that is how posterity will remember us.
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Yes, tongue-in-cheek -- "What a coincidence!" -- rather that is the plan: how to continue to ensure that East Asians, ABCs, etc. do not constitute more than 25% of so of their student populations, as the criteria will now shift to something like creativity rather than race as a deciding factor. What are some of the different ways that creativity can be observed in a student application? That is a fake, subjective criterion designed to exclude East Asians, ABCs, etc.? Or something truly substantive and real? So it seems dropping affirmative action will/would not lead to rising rates of East Asian, ABC, etc. admissions in elite universities.
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What a coincidence! These colleges also make test scores optional. Now elite schools will finally join their ranks.